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	<title>Comments on: HPV authority says pap tests make Gardasil vaccine unnecessary</title>
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		<title>By: guest</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 07:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One more thing? The vaccine is only effective if given BEFORE someone is infected. So I wonder what Dr. Harper advises a parent who has a daughter who has hands covered in warts to do? Fact: the daughter is already a carrier for HPV. Fact: young girls masturbate. Fact: by giving the child the immunization at an early age, there&#039;s a good chance to help minimize her chances of infecting herself with HPV that could potentially set her up for problems later on in life-because we aren&#039;t going to take an 11 yr old girl in for Pap smears to check for cervical changes. In fact, I don&#039;t think anyone would expect us to take her in at 14, or even 16, for Pap smears (unless she were to become sexually active, which she hasn&#039;t to date-she&#039;s 14 now). So tell me...what does a parent do? As the step-mother, I&#039;ve been unable to convince her father to take action, and her mother is too paralyzed by websites like this one which help foster the sense that the immunization is worthless in every case and will only give her lupus or something else equally horrific. You must be so proud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One more thing? The vaccine is only effective if given BEFORE someone is infected. So I wonder what Dr. Harper advises a parent who has a daughter who has hands covered in warts to do? Fact: the daughter is already a carrier for HPV. Fact: young girls masturbate. Fact: by giving the child the immunization at an early age, there&#8217;s a good chance to help minimize her chances of infecting herself with HPV that could potentially set her up for problems later on in life-because we aren&#8217;t going to take an 11 yr old girl in for Pap smears to check for cervical changes. In fact, I don&#8217;t think anyone would expect us to take her in at 14, or even 16, for Pap smears (unless she were to become sexually active, which she hasn&#8217;t to date-she&#8217;s 14 now). So tell me&#8230;what does a parent do? As the step-mother, I&#8217;ve been unable to convince her father to take action, and her mother is too paralyzed by websites like this one which help foster the sense that the immunization is worthless in every case and will only give her lupus or something else equally horrific. You must be so proud.</p>
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		<title>By: Scseery</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 06:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While properly done Pap screens do a great job at catching early stage cervical cancer, which is generally easily treated, your argument falls short. The part of the truth that nobody seems to want to talk about is that girls in their late teens and early twenties are notoriously bad about doing things like keeping those critical once a year appointments, and as legal adults, parents don&#039;t have the pull over them we had when they were younger. As a result, it&#039;s not unusual in the medical clinic where I work to see a twenty-something college girl, who only has come in because she&#039;s having &quot;problems&quot;. Upon examination, we&#039;ll find that she&#039;s missed her yearly exams for at least one or two years, she&#039;s had multiple partners (even if it wasn&#039;t for true intercourse) in the interim, and that she&#039;s now scared, worried, and desperately wishing she had taken part in some preventative care. Right about then, everyone in the room thinks the patient should have had the Gardasil series-she&#039;s the ideal candidate. Since 60% of college age women contract some form of HPV at some point, and 40% of the strains of HPV can cause some kind of genital &quot;problems&quot;, it only make sense that until these women are at an age where they are going to settle down into a monogamous relationship, they really need to be protected as much as possible. Furthermore, while cervical cancer IS one of the easiest to treat when caught early...well, if you don&#039;t catch it early, it&#039;s nearly always fatal, with a IIa or greater rated cervical cancer, the survival rate drops to 80% at 5 years; at IIIA it drops to 30%, and at IVA? Only 16%. That really is a slap in the face for all the people who think that cervical cancer is nothing to worry about. The harsh fact is that if you DON&#039;T get a yearly exam, if you DON&#039;T have a monogamous relationship, if you are casual and carefree and just think that HPV and cancer can be fixed with a magic wand? Well, you&#039;re playing with fire. Gardasil wasn&#039;t developed just because there was nothing good on TV. It was developed because there was a need to try to stop a trend of younger and younger women developing these low grade cervical cancers. The fact that it happened to be able to prevent genital warts was just a bonus. Yes, there ARE side effects, as with any vaccine, and yes, any intelligent patient should educate herself-however, I would caution her to avoid chat rooms, websites run by legal teams, churches, or any other potentially biased groups. Try peer reviewed journal articles from the library for your best source of honest, unbiased information, and discuss it at length with your doctor. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While properly done Pap screens do a great job at catching early stage cervical cancer, which is generally easily treated, your argument falls short. The part of the truth that nobody seems to want to talk about is that girls in their late teens and early twenties are notoriously bad about doing things like keeping those critical once a year appointments, and as legal adults, parents don&#8217;t have the pull over them we had when they were younger. As a result, it&#8217;s not unusual in the medical clinic where I work to see a twenty-something college girl, who only has come in because she&#8217;s having &#8220;problems&#8221;. Upon examination, we&#8217;ll find that she&#8217;s missed her yearly exams for at least one or two years, she&#8217;s had multiple partners (even if it wasn&#8217;t for true intercourse) in the interim, and that she&#8217;s now scared, worried, and desperately wishing she had taken part in some preventative care. Right about then, everyone in the room thinks the patient should have had the Gardasil series-she&#8217;s the ideal candidate. Since 60% of college age women contract some form of HPV at some point, and 40% of the strains of HPV can cause some kind of genital &#8220;problems&#8221;, it only make sense that until these women are at an age where they are going to settle down into a monogamous relationship, they really need to be protected as much as possible. Furthermore, while cervical cancer IS one of the easiest to treat when caught early&#8230;well, if you don&#8217;t catch it early, it&#8217;s nearly always fatal, with a IIa or greater rated cervical cancer, the survival rate drops to 80% at 5 years; at IIIA it drops to 30%, and at IVA? Only 16%. That really is a slap in the face for all the people who think that cervical cancer is nothing to worry about. The harsh fact is that if you DON&#8217;T get a yearly exam, if you DON&#8217;T have a monogamous relationship, if you are casual and carefree and just think that HPV and cancer can be fixed with a magic wand? Well, you&#8217;re playing with fire. Gardasil wasn&#8217;t developed just because there was nothing good on TV. It was developed because there was a need to try to stop a trend of younger and younger women developing these low grade cervical cancers. The fact that it happened to be able to prevent genital warts was just a bonus. Yes, there ARE side effects, as with any vaccine, and yes, any intelligent patient should educate herself-however, I would caution her to avoid chat rooms, websites run by legal teams, churches, or any other potentially biased groups. Try peer reviewed journal articles from the library for your best source of honest, unbiased information, and discuss it at length with your doctor.</p>
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